Monday, August 1, 2011

Policing

Serious business, public safety.
For the record we have commented on policing before.
But you're right - we've pretty much left the idea of a Law Enforcement Authority alone.
But since you asked...
The people of this Village and residents of this Township long ago drew lines in the sand, carefully marking out where one ends and the other begins.
The old Village Council erected it's own Berlin Wall between Township and Village government, complete with barbed wire and armed guards.
Your former Police Chief made no bones about where his jurisdiction started and where it ended, and had an extremely antagonistic relationship with the Ingham County Sheriff's Office, as did most of his officers.
This attitude of insularity permeated all aspects of life in the Village.
When the Ingham County Commissioners announced that budget cuts would eliminate road patrol for the out counties, Stockbridge Township Supervisor Paul Risner had a dialogue with your then Village Manager Dan Dancer about expanding Village coverage to include the Township. Risner wanted to ensure the safety of Township residents, and was investigating all avenues. The Village Manager promised that he would have someone contact the township. Needless to say, it never happened.
The Township extended it's hand; the Village slapped it away.
Fast forward to 2011.
Road Patrol is shaved to 2 deputies to cover 444 square miles.
It goes without saying that the math doesn't work in that equation.
Michigan State Police began picking up some of the slack, but again, with MSP facing cuts of its own, they were hard pressed to respond to any but the most serious calls.
Result? Don't call 911 unless you're bleeding - profusely - cuz there will be a wait.
A new and hopeful era dawned here in the Village with the resignations of the manager and the chief; new council members were elected; bridges began to be built between the Township and the Village. It was a brand new day.
But long memories and bad feelings began to sabotage what should have been a beautiful partnership. "We're the Village - we don't give a hairy hoot what happens in the Township," said some. "Let them solve their own problems," said others. And many more, after much disingenuous posturing and misinformation in the local paper, based their opinions on an expanded police force on that twisted information. Many in the Village balked at the idea of an expanded police force based on money alone. How much should the Township pay? Certainly the Village shouldn't bear the brunt of the costs to police 'them.' Who would be 'in charge' of the police, and who would decide what would get patrolled and when? Such questions dangled there in the air, and no one was providing good answers. For some Village residents, the answer was simple - let the township fend for itself.
This road of long memories and bad feelings runs both ways. For some Township residents, the last thing they wanted or felt they needed was the Village Police Department poking its nose into Township business. Hell, most Township residents weren't all that worried about the loss of the road patrol. They felt they could 'take care of themselves' and 'look after their own.' The rallying cry seemed to be the sound of 'hillbilly burglar alarms' - the sound of a 12 gage shot gun being racked.
While we feel that a Law Enforcement Authority would certainly solve a couple of problems, we also feel it would pose some.
And can residents who have a hard time seeing eye to eye on the time of day, really come together to form the Authority?
We have no idea.
Cost is certainly an issue. Risner refused to assess taxes on Township residents to fund law enforcement without putting it to a vote - and  Township residents promptly voted it down.
Who would sit on the Authority Board? Are there people that would be trusted by both the Village and the Township?
And would residents of the Township see this as just a money-making opportunity for the cash strapped Village to balance the budget with Township dollars; or would they view it as a necessity for having some police protection?
A vast majority of Township residents are over 65 and living alone. A vulnerable population that does require protection, and would certainly benefit from police coverage.
The Village is currently plagued by a rash of vandalism and thefts; more police patrol hours would go a long way toward curbing that behavior.
Pros and cons; cons and pros.
What to do?
We here at the Citizen-Herald support policing as a right of every American to be safe in their homes.
The biggest hurdles will be those long memories, that insular attitude, and those 'we don't need you' thinkers on BOTH sides of the issue.

15 comments:

  1. I am not sure if a joint police effort is ever going to make it through the 'hoops', but I can say I support the idea. The devil is always in the details, isn't it? Making it work will be the real challenge. I think everyone agrees that more police coverage is....well, more, and more is good. Let's hope that the future surprises all the naysayers and a win-win solutions is found.

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  2. So far, the 2 committees haven't either gathered or made public enough information for either side to base a valid opinion upon. Until that happens, I can't imagine a millage passing. Clearly, BLOGGER X is pro-township. My village taxes are already sky high and I won't be welcoming additional taxes for expanded police coverage.

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  3. Well, I am not Blogger X and I dont see this as pro-township. No one has said anything about additional taxes either. What I may support whole heartedly when it is free, I may have some reservations about when it is coming from my pocket. But this article was about hoping for a win-win solution. And I continue to hope this new Village board and the Township Board have some luck in solving the problems of the communities with which they were entrusted. But the attitude of some and the questionable decision making of others has given me some doubt.

    If power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, then how is our President of the United States to be trusted? I am a dem who likes O'bama, but I'm just saying....... :)

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  4. 1. Last millage did not pass because no one understood what the millage would provide. This seems to be heading the same direction so far.
    2. Standing behind the wall of Anonymity, author(s) agiain sling mud without any responsibility again showing the community simple cowardice. Please take off the mask once and for all, you won't because you would NEVER say any of this to anyone in person.
    3. Can you write anything positive? You insulted the village residents, take more shots at last council, and just have nothing but focusing on past events instead of anything positive. I never heard any residents say anything near your statements.

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  5. There are only two ways that this can be funded. The Township can pass a millage (which includes the Village)for Police Protection and then the Village lowers the Village taxes used for the Police Department. The other is, this is a little on the tricky side, pass a millage for Township taxpayers only, and use that money towards the Police coverage. The money offered by Ingham County is a one time offer and if it is taken the govermental unit, ie. Stockbridge Township, would not be able to go back to using the ICSD for any type of Police Service. This would put the Township in a corner, getting the money will be nice, but it locks them into a contract with someone for Police Service. The whole idea of the Village Police Department covering the Township is both a win-win and a lose-lose for both. The Township will get Police Coverage that they do not have at this time, and the Village will get additional hours of coverage. The bad part is that there is only one officer on duty at any given time. Thus, that officer will be covering both the Village and the Township. With 36 sq miles to cover compared to 1.8, the officer will be spending most of his time in the township. When a Village resident needs the Police, that person will have to hope that the officer is not on a call in the township, and is able to respond to the 911 request in a decent amount of time. The Village has only had 100 +/- hours of Police Coverage a week and the combination department will at least double that, but the big trade off is that the Village will lose it's dedicated Police Coverage. Other communities have done this,look at Pinckney Village and Putnam Township, but in that case the Township paid actual cost for an ADDITIONAL officer and paid for the hours they wanted. In that case, Putnam paid for 40 hours of coverage, and used LCSD/MSP for the non-contracted hours. The thing is over in Livingston County the Sheriff's Department and MSP have more than two officers to cover the county. This put a dedicated officer in the township, keeping the Village Officer in the Village, and the township paid for what they wanted/got, nothing more and nothing less. The residents of the Village of Stockbridge should not lose the coverage they have now at the cost of providing Stockbridge Township police protection. If the township wants police protection from the Village, they should determine what coverage hours they want, raise the money needed, pay for those hours, and then they can control the hours and days the township officer(s) work. This will give the township the control that they seem to want at the same time keeping the Village officer in the Village. That is the only way that would be fair for the Village residents. That is unless the Village wants to have the Township pay half and only get half the coverage they get now. Maybe we as Village residents should be allowed to vote on what we want to see done with the Police Department. Put it to a vote and let the Village residents determine if we want to share the costs or let the Township pay for what coverage they want. Just a thought.

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  6. 3rd option.

    A millage for township and village is on ballot. It passes. Current council states our 12 mill will not go down because they need it. I, for one, cannot afford one red cent in additional taxes. Can you? I mean everything is going up and I am making decisions between gas for work and food fo the table. Please, make whatever is done something that doesn't cost us on a fixed income, we are hurting.

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  7. This post is not pro anything or anyone. It simply states that there is a history of insularity on both parties, and that working together would be an option beneficial to both places, if past differences and mistrust could be put aside. And frankly, I don't care who is writing this blog - I am just enjoying reading it and getting the straight scoop.

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  8. I think its those guys from that other blog that are so obsessed with finding out who's writing this. Give it a rest already. Like other comments have said, who cares who is writing. Its about time someone told the dam truth! I dont' care if my cat is writing this while I'm sleeping. He's one well informed cat.

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  9. There has been some misinformation from 3 comments back - sharing the police with the township should actually increase the number of police hours we will be able to afford for coverage in the Village and the Township combined; it does not necessarily reduce coverage in the Village. You have to remember, most incidents occur where the population is, not vice versa. It has been my understanding that there may be times when there would be 2 officers on duty. The options,as I understand them, are either a millage increase on the full township, wherein the Village would reduce the Village millage by the same amount OR a millage on the Township excepting out the Village. Either way, it is NOT an increase to Village residents, BUT it is a terrific solution for us all! Imagine, the Village and Township working in a cooperative manner on something as basic as police protection! What a win for us all! But before there is any more speculation, let's see what the Township proposes. In the mean time I would suggest we all contact our county commissioners and lambaste them for putting Lansing Parks above Police protection.

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  10. I’ve been reading and hearing things about police coverage, the lack of, costs and whether or not it’s needed in our fair community. We have all heard the old saying, “there’s never a cop around when you need one”. Maybe that’s reserved for the folks in the big city. Or is it? The Sun Times has outlined an informal proposal made to the Township as a solution to the lack of consistent Law Enforcement protection and presence. In this comment I was prepared to list all the pros and cons of this particular situation, but I think most folks have already done that for themselves. The points I want to make are simple. Many communities are combining their resources to save money, thus putting aside their differences to be self sufficient and solve their own problems. Yes the lack of quality law enforcement is a problem. Most folks look at crime as a personal thing. Let me explain: If someone comes into your home with harmful intent, most folks feel they have the right to eliminate the problem. You do have that right. It sounds easy to tell someone you would put a cap in someone coming into your home uninvited to do harm. Believe me it’s not as easy as you think. Many police officers go through countless sessions of therapy after taking a life. It’s not a normal act. How many soldiers come home from war to debilitating nightmares because of this act? Yes, I agree this is an extreme analogy, but could happen and should be talked about when addressing law enforcement and protection. Let’s address a more realistic proponent of the real life in law enforcement and answer a few questions. Are you in fact ready, willing, and able to solve crimes? Can you effectively stake out that Meth house to keep drugs out of our schools and away from our children? Are you willing to run down leads to return those items that disappear from your yard, farm or business? How much time are you willing to put in to patrol the streets at night? I would expect that we depend on the professionals to do the things we are not qualified to do, just as much as I’m not qualified to plant corn, nurture it and get it to market to buy things to feed my family. The village stands to get more coverage under this plan, the Townships stands to get consistent law enforcement under this proposal and perpetuate an authority to protect ourselves for the future and become a stronger community.

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  11. Just out of curiosity...What would police coverage for the township provide? Does that just mean we have police driving aimlessly throughout the township hoping to divert a crime that may or may not be happening? What happens if a crime is happening in the township now? Who responds to the call?

    I personally would never agree to pay for police coverage if the purpose is just to have more police driving around. I live out in the township for a reason:for less government authority, not more.

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  12. Ah. The "I can take care of myself" line of thinking. Here's the deal: police presence can thwrt crime - stop it before it starts. Aimlessly driving around? May look aimless to you, looks like trouble for bad guys to the bad guys. And even if you can take care of yourself, what about your 70 year old neighbor, 2 miles away? Who responds now? Good question. Ingham County - if they have someone to send, and/ot MSP - if they have someone to send, and occasionally the Village police when there is no one else. Police presence deterrs crime. Period. And just so you know - deadly force to protect property is AGAINST THE LAW. You could find yourself in jail for shooting at someone who is trying to steal your stuff - whether you hit them or not.
    And you still have a government in the township - you pay taxes, don't you?

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  13. The citizens need a plan with simple to understand information, this is what is lacking. If township and village officials want support and a passable millage the information has to be provided with the details. This poster hopes the bodies put this together leaning heavily on the new Chief in a way it can be understood and at least a 3 to 5 year budget forecast included in a few public special meetings.

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  14. That is a perfect idea, actually. Ask the POLICE CHIEF to explain how an expanded law enforcement authority would work. After all who knows better about policing than the body that provides it? After we get a look at HOW then how about a look at HOW MUCH WILL IT COST? Just the bare bones facts that EVERYONE can understand. Then an opportunity to ASK all the questions we're all going to have. If we don't like the answers, or don't like the plan, we have an opportunity to say NO. If on the other hand, we do like the plan and the answers aren't alot of double talk, then we have the opportunity to say YES. Public meetings, like the ones the township held, would provide opportunities for all of this to happen. (I hope the powers that be are reading this.)

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  15. The township committee needs to actually DO SOMETHING. No action, no information, NO POLICE COVERAGE. Look at Unadilla Township. They have COVERAGE. Look at Waterloo Township. They have COVERAGE. INVESTIGATE how it works for them.

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